Subject: | 4.0L L47 4.6L LD8 L37 Engine Intermittent Slow Speed Decel |
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When servicing the vehicle with the VIN you entered, the following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the described symptoms.
Some1996-1999 Oldsmobile Aurora with the 4.0L(L47) and Cadillac vehicles with the 4.6L (LD8 L37) Northstar engine may exhibit an intermittent stall/near stall/idle flare or flux while the vehicle is at idle. The customer may not notice the near stall but, will notice the idle flare as the PCM tries to save the engine from stalling. Normally this condition will be accompanied with a PCM code P1599 for stall or near stall detected.
This condition of an intermittent slow speed decel stall may be caused by carbon deposits formed on the IAC and EGR valve or in the throttle body passages. If this vehicle stalls when coasting above speeds of 20 mph, one possible cause maybe the EGR valve sticking. (As with speeds above 20 mph the P0401 diagnostic will exercise the EGR valve to near 100% when certain conditions have been met.). The sticking condition may not be on the pintle end of the valve, but on the shaft; therefore cleaning the EGR valve may not improve this stall condition. It is important to note that the P0401 diagnostic does not seem to run when the Tech 2 is in the snapshot mode. This prevents a technician from seeing the condition as it occurs. If the answer to either of these questions is yes, then the condition is not the EGR sticking from the P0401 diagnostic.
If the answer to either of the above questions is no, then the decel stall condition maybe caused due to EMI induced on the crank sensor ckt .This EMI originates from the #4 cylinder firing event, through the spark plug wire into the ICM (from the #4 coil/ICM proximity), which is then transferred into the sensor ckt due to the proximity of the icm to the sensor ckt.
Please follow this diagnosis process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed. If these steps do not resolve the condition, please contact GM TAC for further diagnostic assistance. This diagnostic approach was developed for the vehicle with the VIN you entered and should not be automatically be used for other vehicles with similar symptoms.
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(96 -99 CADILLAC DEVILLE 4.6L (LD8) ENGINE ) and (96 -99 CADILLAC ELDORADO 4.6L (LD8, L37) ENGINE) and (96 -99 CADILLAC SEVILLE 4.6L (LD8, L37) ENGINE) and (96 -99 OLDSMOBILE AURORA 4.0L (L47) ENGINE )
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