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Charging System Test Primary Generator

Test Description

The numbers below refer to the step numbers on the diagnostic table.

  1. If the test has shown the generator to be OK, however the condition remains, test the PCM or its control circuit(s) to the generator.

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

Schematic Reference: Starting and Charging Schematics

1

Did you perform the Engine Electrical Diagnostic System Check?

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Go to Step 2

Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Electrical

2

Start the engine, observe the charge indicator on the instrument cluster (IPC) or message in the driver information center (DIC).

Does the charge indicator illuminate or the DIC display a charging system message?

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Go to Step 3

Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections in Wiring Systems

3

Important: The green POWER lamp of the tester should remain illuminated while the tester is being used.

  1. Turn OFF the ignition.
  2. Connect the red lead of the J 41450-B to the generator output terminal.
  3. Connect the black lead of the J 41450-B to the metal generator housing.

Does the green POWER lamp on the tester illuminate?

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Go to Step 6

Go to Step 4

4

Measure the voltage from the output terminal of the generator to the generator metal housing.

Does the voltage measure equal to the specified value?

Battery Positive Voltage

Go to Step 14

Go to Step 5

5

Measure the voltage from the output terminal of the generator to the battery negative terminal.

Does the voltage measure equal to the specified value?

Battery Positive Voltage

Go to Step 12

Go to Step 11

6

Caution: Make sure that the load is completely turned off before connecting or disconnecting a carbon pile load tester to the battery. Otherwise, sparking could ignite battery gasses which are extremely flammable and may explode violently.

  1. Connect a carbon pile tester to the vehicle.
  2. Important: Be sure all of generator output circuit wires pass through the inductive probe.

  3. Connect an inductive ammeter to the output circuit of the generator.
  4. Disconnect the generator harness connector.
  5. Locate the matching harness connector on the J 41450-B and connect it to the generator.

Does the red DIAGNOSTIC lamp on the tester light?

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Go to Step 7

Go to Step 13

7

  1. Start the engine and allow it to idle for 30 seconds.
  2. Increase the engine speed to 2500 RPM.

Does the red DIAGNOSTIC lamp on the tester illuminate?

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Go to Step 15

Go to Step 8

8

  1. Maintain the engine speed at 2500 RPM.
  2. Turn ON the load of the carbon pile tester and increase the load until the generator output is greater than or equal to the load test value given in Generator Usage .

Does the red DIAGNOSTIC lamp on the tester illuminate?

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Go to Step 15

Go to Step 9

9

  1. Maintain the engine speed at 2500 RPM and continue to operate the generator at the load test value.
  2. Measure the voltage drop from the output terminal of the generator to the positive terminal on the battery. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Does the voltage measure greater than the specified value?

0.5 V

Go to Step 11

Go to Step 10

10

  1. Maintain the engine speed at 2500 RPM and continue to operate the generator at the load test value.
  2. Measure the voltage drop from the battery negative terminal to the metal housing of the generator. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Does the voltage measure greater than the specified value?

0.5 V

Go to Step 12

Go to Step 16

11

Repair the high resistance or an open in the output circuit of the generator. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you complete the repair?

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Go to Step 16

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12

Repair the high resistance or open in the ground circuit of the generator. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you complete the repair?

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Go to Step 16

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13

  1. Disconnect the J 41450-B tester harness connector from the generator, but leave the alligator clips connected so that the green POWER lamp remains illuminated.
  2. Connect a jumper lead, with an in-line 100-ohm resistor between the J 41450-B tester harness connector term and a good ground. Refer to Engine Electrical Connector End Views .

Does the red DIAGNOSTIC lamp illuminate?

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Go to Step 15

Go to Step 14

14

There is a problem with the J 41450-B Refer to the manufacturers instructions, how to test the J 41450-B for proper operation.

Has the J 41450-B tester been replaced?

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Go to Step 3

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15

Replace the generator. Refer to Generator Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?

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Go to Step 16

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16

Operate the vehicle in order to verify the repair.

Did you correct the condition?

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System OK

Go to Step 2

Charging System Test Auxillary Generator

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

Schematic Reference: Starting and Charging Schematics

1

Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check for Engine Electrical?

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Go to Step 2

Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Electrical

2

Perform the Charging System Test for the Primary Generator.

Does the primary generator pass the test?

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Go to Step 3

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3

  1. Turn OFF the ignition.
  2. Disconnect the primary generator.
  3. Connect a charging system tester to the battery (follow the manufactures instructions).
  4. Operate the engine at 2500 RPM.
  5. Adjust the carbon pile as necessary in order to obtain the maximum current output.

Is the generator output within 5 A of the specified value?

28 Amps

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 4

4

  1. Maintain the engine speed at 2500 RPM and continue to operate the generator at the load test value.
  2. Measure the voltage drop between the generator output terminal and the battery positive terminal.

Is the voltage above the specified value?

0.5 V

Go to Step 6

Go to Step 5

5

  1. Maintain the engine speed at 2500 RPM and continue to operate the generator at the load test value.
  2. Measure the voltage drop between the battery negative terminal and the generator metal housing.

Is the voltage above the specified value?

0.5 V

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 8

6

Test the battery positive circuit between the generator output terminal and the battery positive terminal for a high resistance. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?

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Go to Step 9

Go to Step 7

7

Repair the high resistance in the ground circuit between the generator housing and the battery negative terminal. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you complete the repair?

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Go to Step 9

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8

Replace the generator. Refer to Generator Replacement .

Did you complete the repair?

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Go to Step 9

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9

Operate the system in order to verify the repair.

Did you correct the condition?

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System OK

Go to Step 3