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Object Number: 33179  Size: SF
Engine Controls Components
Engine Sensors (L29)
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Circuit Description

The controls module monitors the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor and engine run time in order to determine how long it takes the ECT to reach the coolant temperature required for Closed Loop operation. DTC P0125 sets if the control module determines that the ECT does not reach a minimum coolant temperature required for Closed Loop operation in a specified amount of time.

Conditions for Running the DTC

    •  The engine is running
    • No active ECT DTCs
    • No active IAT DTCs
    • The IAT is more than -7°C (20°F)
    • The ECT is more than -9°C (16°F)
    • The start-up ECT is 40°C (104°F) or less

Closed Loop Test

    • Vehicle stabilized at -40°C (-40°F)
       - Accumulated air flow since start is more than 7500 grams
       - Accumulated idle time is less than 360 seconds
    • Vehicle stabilized at -7°C (20°F)
       - Accumulated air flow since start is more than 4500 grams
       - Accumulated idle time is less than 225 seconds
    • Vehicle stabilized at 10°C (50°F)
       - Accumulated air flow since start is more than 1600 grams
       - Accumulated idle time is less than 90 seconds

Conditions for Setting the DTC

    • Vehicle stabilized at -40°C (-40°F)
        ECT less than 20°C (68°F) after 8 minutes
    • Vehicle stabilized at -7°C (20°F)
        ECT less than 20°C (68°F) after 5 minutes
    • Vehicle stabilized at 10°C (50°F)
        ECT less than 20°C (68°F) after 2 minutes

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

    • The control module illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) if a failure is detected during 2 consecutive key cycles.
    • The control module sets the DTC and records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic failed. The failure information is stored in the scan tool Freeze Frame/Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL or DTC

    • The control module turns OFF the MIL after 3 consecutive drive trips when the test has run and passed.
    • A history DTC will clear if no fault conditions have been detected for 40 warm-up cycles. A warm-up cycle occurs when the coolant temperature has risen 22°C (40°F) from the startup coolant temperature and the engine coolant reaches a temperature that is more than 70°C (158°F) during the same ignition cycle.
    • Use a scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.

Diagnostic Aids

When a DTC P0125 sets, an out of range ECT sensor or an engine thermostat that does not operate correctly is indicated.

Check for a poor connection or a damaged harness.

Inspect the VCM harness connector for the following condition:

An intermittent may be caused by any of the following conditions:

    • A poor connection
    • Rubbed through wire insulation
    • A broken wire inside the insulation

Thoroughly check any circuitry that is suspected of causing the intermittent complaint. Refer to Intermittents and Poor Connections Diagnosis in Wiring Systems.

If a repair is necessary, refer to Wiring Repairs or Connector Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Test Description

The numbers below refer to the step numbers in the diagnostic table.

  1. This test checks the engine warm-up rate. In the Conditions for Setting the DTC text, the technician should be able to reference the allowable engine run time relative to the cold start up temperature of the vehicle.

  2. This test checks the coolant sensor reading on the scan tool and the actual coolant temperature.

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

Important: Before clearing the DTCs, use the scan tool Capture Info to save the Freeze Frame and Failure Records for reference. The control module's data is deleted once the Clear Info function is used.

Did you perform the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check?

--

Go to Step 2

Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2

Check the cooling system coolant level.

Is the coolant level low?

--

Go to Loss of Coolant in Engine Cooling

Go to Step 3

3

Operate the vehicle within the conditions for setting this DTC as specified in the Conditions for Setting the DTC text.

Does the ECT value rise steadily to and above the specified value within the time and temperature specified in the Conditions for Running and Setting?

20°C (68°F)

Go to Diagnostic Aids

Go to Step 4

4

Caution: To avoid being burned, do not remove the radiator cap or surge tank cap while the engine is hot. The cooling system will release scalding fluid and steam under pressure if radiator cap or surge tank cap is removed while the engine and radiator are still hot.

  1. Insert an accurate thermometer or other temperature measuring device into the coolant in the radiator.
  2. Compare the ECT display on the scan tool to the actual coolant temperature.

Is the actual coolant temperature near the scan tool ECT temperature?

--

Go to Thermostat Diagnosis in Engine Cooling

Go to Step 5

5

Replace the ECT sensor. Refer to Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Replacement

Is the action complete?

--

Go to Step 6

--

6

  1. Using the scan tool, clear the DTCs.
  2. Start the engine.
  3. Allow the engine to idle until the engine reaches normal operating temperature.
  4. Select DTC and the Specific DTC function.
  5. Enter the DTC number which was set.
  6. Operate the vehicle, with the Conditions for Setting this DTC, until the scan tool indicates the diagnostic Ran.

Does the scan tool indicate the diagnostic Passed?

--

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 2

7

Does the scan tool display any additional undiagnosed DTCs?

--

Go to the applicable DTC table

System OK