THUMP/KNOCK NOISE AT IDLE INSTALL NEW DESIGN DRIVE BELT

SUBJECT: THUMP OR KNOCK NOISE AT OR JUST OFF IDLE

MODEL and YEAR: 1992 LUMINA APV WITH 3800 ENGINE

New S.B.A.D. belts were released for production October 1, 1991 and are now available for service on 1992 3800 V6 engines. These new belts, with smoother grooves, greatly reduce "belt pilling ". Belt pilling is a condition in which particles of belt material forms small balls or "pills" in the belt grooves. Some degree of pilling is normal, however, excessive pilling can cause a thump or knock noise when the pills pass over various pulleys. The thump or knock noise could be misdiagnosed as an engine or accessory noise.

The following checklist will help diagnose and repair a belt pilling condition:

1. Remove the belt and momentarily run the engine to confirm that the source of the noise has disappeared.

2a. If the noise does not disappear, there are other factors that can cause a thump or knock noise. See Section 6 in the service manual for additional diagnostic information.

2b. If the noise does disappear; inspect the power steering pulley for proper alignment and repair as necessary.

3. Inspect all pulleys for excess paint, debris or pills in the grooves - clean as necessary.

4. Install a new belt from the listed service part numbers in the information section of this publication.

SERVICE PARTS INFORMATION:

MODEL PART NUMBER CODE ----- ----------- ---- U 25532180 SAT

NOTE: Supercharged 3800 V6 engines were all produced with new smoother groove belts. The part numbers for these belts are:

Supercharged Drive 24501446 Alternator Drive 24501447

PARTS STATEMENT:

Parts are currently available from GMSPO.

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