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Engine Controls Components
Data Link Connector
OBD II Symbol Description Notice
Powertrain Control Module Connector End Views
Handling ESD Sensitive Parts Notice
Handling ESD Sensitive Parts Notice

System Description

The PCM identifies an engine misfire by detecting the variations in crankshaft speed. The crankshaft speed variations can also occur when a vehicle is operated over a rough surface. The ABS (Anti-Lock Brake System) can detect when the vehicle is on a rough surface based on the wheel acceleration/deceleration data supplied by each wheel speed sensor. The EBCM (Electronic Brake Control Module) over the Class 2 serial data line sends this information to the PCM. The PCM then uses this information in order to determine if the crankshaft variations are being caused by an actual engine misfire or from being driven on a rough surface.

Whenever the ABS is found to be malfunctioning, the PCM will still continue to detect for misfire. However, if a misfire DTC is set, this additional DTC P1380 will also set, indicating that rough surface data was not usable during the misfire detection due to the ABS malfunction.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

    • A DTC P0300-P0304 has been set.
    • The vehicle speed is greater than 1 mph.
    • The manifold absolute pressure is less than 99 kPa.
    • The engine speed is below 3400 rpm.
    • An ABS DTC was set.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

    • The PCM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The Failure Records buffers stores this information.
    • A history DTC is stored.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

    • A History DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm up cycles without a fault.
    • Use a scan tool to clear the DTCs.

Diagnostic Aids

The setting of this DTC indicates that a misfire was detected and that the PCM could not determine if the detected misfire was true or due to operating the vehicle on a rough surface. A misfire can be a true misfire with or without setting this DTC. Check the EBCM for poor connections at the Class 2 serial data terminals. Be sure no true misfire exists after repairing the cause of this DTC.

Test Description

Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table.

  1. The Powertrain OBD System Check prompts the technician to complete some basic checks and store the freeze frame and failure records data on the scan tool if applicable. This creates an electronic copy of the data taken when the malfunction occurred. The information is then stored on the scan tool for later reference.

  2. ABS DTCs are found by selecting Chassis on the scan tool.

  3. Refer to the antilock brake system portion of the service manual for ABS DTCs and repairs.

  4. Be careful to clear only DTCs and not the captured information stored on the scan tool. The scan tool will issue a warning if this is about to happen.

  5. A DTC P1380 being reset indicates that the PCM is not receiving the correct information from the EBCM due to an ABS DTC.

  6. When DTC P1380 is set, an ABS DTC should also be set.

  7. Repair any condition that is causing a misfire by following the misfire DTC table for any DTC that has set.

  8. Replacement PCMs must be reprogrammed and the crankshaft position system variation procedure must be performed. Refer to the latest Techline information for PCM reprogramming and also refer to the Crankshaft Position System Variation Learn for the Crankshaft Position System Variation Procedure.

DTC P1380-EBCM DTC Detected - Rough Road Data Unusable (Manual Trans.)

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

Was the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?

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Go to Step 2

Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2

  1. Turn the ignition switch ON, with the engine OFF.
  2. Install a scan tool.
  3. Check for any ABS DTCs.

Were any ABS DTCs set?

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Go to Step 3

Go to Step 4

3

Repair the condition causing the ABS DTC.

Is the action complete?

--

Go to Step 4

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4

  1. Turn the ignition switch ON, with the engine OFF.
  2. Review the Freeze Frame data and note the parameters.
  3. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Setting the DTC as noted while driving on a rough surface.

Did a misfire DTC set?

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Go to Step 5

Go to Step 9

5

Was a DTC P1380 also set?

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Go to Step 6

Go to Step 7

6

Did a ABS DTC also set?

--

Go to Step 3

Go to Step 8

7

Repair the condition causing the misfire.

Is the action complete?

--

Go to Step 9

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8

Replace the PCM. Refer to Powertrain Control Module Replacement .

Is the action complete?

--

Go to Step 9

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9

  1. Using the scan tool, clear the DTCs.
  2. Start the engine and idle at normal operating temperature.
  3. Operate the vehicle within the conditions for setting this DTC as specified in the supporting text.

Does the scan tool indicate that this diagnostic has ran and passed?

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Go to Step 10

Go to Step 2

10

Check if any additional DTCs are set.

Are any DTCs displayed that has not been diagnosed?

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Go to the Applicable DTC table

System OK