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Object Number: 368395  Size: SF
Engine Controls Components
TP, MAP, ECT, IAT Sensors
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Circuit Description

To provide the best possible combination of driveability, fuel economy, and emission control, a closed loop air/fuel metering system is used. When the vehicle is first started, the PCM controls fuel delivery in open loop, ignoring the HO2S signals and calculating air/fuel ratio based on inputs from the engine coolant temperature, throttle position, and mass air flow sensors. The PCM will begin using the HO2S 1 signal for controlling fuel delivery (Closed Loop). when the following conditions have been met:

    •  The HO2S output signal is varying, indicating that the sensor is hot enough to operate properly.
    •  The Engine Coolant Temperature sensor indicates coolant temperature above 40°C (104°F) with manual transmission vehicles or above 20°C(68°F) with automatic transmission vehicles.
    •  Time since start-up is at least 15 seconds for a warm engine or 90 seconds for a cold engine.

The PCM monitors the amount of time for the cooling system to achieve closed loop operating temperature. This diagnostic is broken into three temperature regions. The diagnostic uses the ECT and IAT Sensors to determine which region to operate in. The time to achieve closed loop temperature is monitored. A time based decision is made depending on the temperature region. The diagnostic will monitor the following conditions prior to setting the DTC:

    •  Total airflow must exceed a calibrated amount.
    •  Engine idle time must be less than a calibrated amount.

Conditions for Running the DTC

    •  No active IAT or ECT DTCs present.
    •  Minimum air temperature is greater than -7°C (19°F).
    •  Start-up engine coolant temperature is below 40°C (104°F).
    •  Region 1--air temperature above 10°C (50°F) and the start up coolant temperature above10°C (50°F) .
    •  Region 2--air temperature above -7°C (20°F) and the start up coolant temperature between -7°C (20°F) and 10°C (50°F).
    •  Region 3--air temperature above -7°C (20°F) and the start up coolant temperature between -40°C (-40°F) and -7°C (20°F).

Conditions for Setting the DTC

Region 1 (Automatic Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 139 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 20°C (68°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 104 seconds.

Region 1 (Manual Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 325 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 40°C (104°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 250 seconds.

Region 2 (Automatic Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 251 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 20°C (68°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 188 seconds.

Region 2 (Manual Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 400 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 40°C (104°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 300 seconds.

Region 3 (Automatic Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 324 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 20°C (68°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 243 seconds.

Region 3 (Manual Transmission):

    •  Engine run time over 475 seconds to achieve closed loop temperature of 40°C (104°F).
    •  Calibrated minimum amount of total airflow has been exceeded.
    •  Maximum idle time greater than 375 seconds.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

    • The PCM will illuminate the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) during the second consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test has been run and failed.
    • The PCM will store conditions which were present when the DTC set as Freeze Frame and Failure Records data.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

    • The PCM will turn OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic has been run and passed.
    • The History DTC will clear after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles have occurred without a malfunction.
    • The DTC can be cleared by using the scan tool.

Diagnostic Aids

DTC P0125 set indicates a skewed ECT sensor. Comparing the engine coolant temperature displayed on a scan tool with actual coolant temperature measured with a thermometer may isolate this condition. If the displayed engine coolant temperature is not close to the actual coolant temperature, replace the ECT sensor.

Check for the following conditions:

    •  Poor connection at PCM. Inspect harness connectors for backed out terminals, improper mating, broken locks, improperly formed or damaged terminals, and poor terminal to wire connection. Refer to Intermittents and Poor Connections Diagnosis
    •  Damaged harness. Inspect the wiring harness for damage. If the harness appears to be OK, observe the display on the scan tool while moving connectors and wiring harnesses related to the sensor. A change in the display will indicate the location of the fault. Refer to Wiring Repairs

If DTC P0125 cannot be duplicated, the information included in the Freeze Frame/Fail Records data can be useful in determining vehicle mileage since the DTC was last set.

Test Description

Number(s) below refer to the step number(s) on the Diagnostic Table:

  1. Comparing the engine coolant temperature indicated on a scan tool with actual coolant temperature measured using athermometer may isolate this condition

    If the indicated engine coolant temperature is not close to the actual coolant temperature, replace the ECT sensor.

    If the temperatures are close, the fault is intermittent. Go to Diagnostic Aids.

DTC P0125 - ECT Excessive Time to Closed Loop

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

1

Did you perform the Powertrain On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check performed?

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Go to Step 2

Go to Powertrain On Board Diagnostic (OBD) System Check

2

  1. Allow the engine to cool completely.
  2. Start engine.
  3. With a scan tool, and the engine idling, observe the Eng. Cool. Temp. parameter.

Does the Eng. Cool. Temp. increase to more than the specified value within 9 minutes?

20°C (68°F) Auto Trans or 40°C(104°F) Manual Trans

Go to Diagnostic Aids

Go to Step 3

3

Are any ECT sensor DTCs set?

--

Go to the applicable ECT sensor DTC chart

Go to Step 4

4

  1. Allow the engine to cool.
  2. Turn ON the ignition and observe cooling fans operation.

Are the cooling fans off?

--

Go to Step 5

Go to Electric Cooling Fan Diagnosis

5

Inspect the cooling system coolant level.

Is the coolant level OK?

--

Go to Step 6

Go to Step 9

6

Test for proper operation of the thermostat. Refer to Engine Fails To Reach Normal Operating Temperature .

Is the thermostat operating correctly?

--

Go to Step 7

Go to Step 9

7

Compare Eng. Cool. Temp. parameter on the scan tool to the actual coolant temperature measured using athermometer.

Does the scan tool indicate Eng. Cool. Temp. within the specified value of the measured temperature?

± 3°C (± 5°F)

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 8

8

  1. Test for high resistance in wiring related to the ECT sensor.
  2. Also, inspect for poor connections at the ECT sensor and at the PCM. Refer to Intermittents and Poor Connections Diagnosis and Wiring Repairs .

Was a problem found?

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Go to Step 10

Go to Step 11

9

Refer to Engine Fails To Reach Normal Operating Temperature for cooling system diagnosis and repair condition as necessary.

Did you complete the repair?

--

Go to Step 12

--

10

Repair poor connections or repair faulty wiring as necessary.

Refer to Connector Repairs or Wiring Repairs .

Did you complete the repair?

--

Go to Step 12

--

11

Replace the ECT sensor. Refer to Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Replacement

Did you complete the replacement?

--

Go to Step 12

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12

  1. Allow the engine to cool completely.
  2. Clear DTCs.
  3. Start engine.
  4. With a scan tool and the engine idling, observe Eng. Cool. Temp.

Does Eng. Cool. Temp. increase to above the specified value within 2 minutes?

20°C (68°F) Auto Trans or 40°C(104°F) Manual Trans

System OK

Go to Step 2