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Control Module References

Circuit Description

The clutch pedal position (CPP) sensor is an input to the engine control module (ECM). The CPP sensor is a potentiometer type sensor with a 5-volt reference signal circuit, a low reference signal circuit and a sensor signal circuit. The ECM supplies the 5-volt reference signal to the CPP sensor.

With the pedal released the CPP sensor signal should read above 4 volts. With the pedal fully depressed the CPP sensor signal should read below 1 volt.

When the ECM detects a continuous open or short to voltage in either the CPP sensor signal circuit or the CPP sensor, DTC P0808 sets. DTC P0808 is a type A DTC.

DTC Descriptor

This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC:

DTC P0808 Clutch Position Sensor Circuit High

Conditions for Running the DTC

    • Ignition voltage is greater than 9 volts.
    • Engine is not cranking.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

The ECM detects a CPP sensor signal voltage greater than 4.8 volts for greater than 6 seconds.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

    • The ECM illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL).
    • The ECM records the operating conditions when the Conditions for Setting the DTC are met. The ECM stores this information as Freeze Frame and Failure Records.
    • The ECM stores DTC P0808 in ECM history.

Conditions for Clearing the DTC

    • The ECM turns OFF the MIL during the third consecutive trip in which the diagnostic test runs and passes.
    • A scan tool can clear the MIL/DTC.
    • The ECM clears the DTC from ECM history if the vehicle completes 40 warm-up cycles without an emission related diagnostic fault occurring.

Diagnostic Aids

Use the J 35616 GM-approved Terminal Test Kit for any test that requires probing the ECM harness connector or any component connector.

Test Description

The number below refers to the step number on the diagnostic table.

  1. This step verifies that a condition exists in the CPP sensor.

Step

Action

Values

Yes

No

Schematic Reference: Antilock Brake System Schematics

1

Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle?

 

Go to Step 2

Go to Diagnostic System Check - Vehicle

2

  1. Install a scan tool.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  3. Important: Before clearing the DTC, use the scan tool in order to record the Freeze Frame and Failure Records for reference. Using the Clear Info function erases the Freeze frame and Failure Records from the ECM.

  4. Use the scan tool to monitor the CPP Sensor parameter in the manual transmission data list.

Does the scan tool display a voltage greater than the specified value?

4.8 V

Go to Step 4

Go to Step 3

3

  1. Observe the Freeze Frame and Failure Records for this DTC.
  2. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
  3. Start the engine.
  4. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame and Failure Records.

Does the DTC fail this ignition?

--

Go to Step 4

Go to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections

4

  1. Turn OFF the ignition.
  2. Disconnect the CPP sensor connector.
  3. Turn ON the ignition, with the engine OFF.
  4. Measure the voltage from the 5-volt reference signal circuit of the CPP sensor to a good ground with a DMM. Refer to Circuit Testing .

Does the DMM indicate voltage within the specified range?

4.8-5.2 V

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 7

5

Measure the voltage from the 5-volt reference signal circuit to the low reference signal circuit of the CPP sensor with a DMM. Refer to Circuit Testing .

Does the DMM indicate voltage within the specified range?

4.8-5.2 V

Go to Step 6

Go to Step 8

6

Measure the voltage from the CPP sensor signal circuit to a good ground with a DMM.

Does the DMM indicate that the voltage is more than the specified value?

0.2 V

Go to Step 9

Go to Step 15

7

Test the CPP sensor 5-volt reference signal circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 10

8

Test the CPP sensor low reference signal circuit for an open. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 12

9

Test the CPP sensor signal circuit for a short to voltage. Refer to Circuit Testing and Wiring Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 10

10

Test for shorted terminals and for a poor connection at the CPP sensor connector. Refer Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 11

11

Test for shorted terminals and for a poor connection at the ECM. Refer Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 14

12

Test for an intermittent and for a poor connection at the CPP sensor connector. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 13

13

Test for an intermittent and for a poor connection at the ECM. Refer to Testing for Intermittent Conditions and Poor Connections and Connector Repairs .

Did you find and correct the condition?

--

Go to Step 16

Go to Step 14

14

Replace the ECM. refer to Control Module References for replacement, setup, and programming.

Did you complete the replacement?

--

Go to Step 16

--

15

Important: The CPP sensor learn procedure is required when the following service procedures have been performed regardless of whether DTC P080A is set:

   • An ECM replacement
   • A CPP sensor replacement
   • Any repairs which affect the CPP sensor relationship

Replace the CPP sensor. Refer to Clutch Pedal Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?

--

Go to Step 16

--

16

  1. Clear the DTCs with a scan tool.
  2. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
  3. Turn ON the ignition with the engine OFF.
  4. Select specific DTC.
  5. Enter DTC P0808.
  6. Start the engine.
  7. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame and Failure Records.

Did the DTC fail this ignition?

--

Go to Step 2

Go to Step 17

17

Observe the Capture Info with a scan tool.

Are there any DTCs that have not been diagnosed?

--

Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List - Vehicle

System OK