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Info - General Windnoise/Waterleak Diagnostic Guide

Subject:General Windnoise/Waterleak Diagnostic Guide

Models:2005 Buick Terraza
2005 Chevrolet Uplander
2005 Pontiac Montana
2005 Saturn Relay



This bulletin contains information on various windnoise and waterleak conditions starting from front of vehicle to the rear of the vehicle. Refer to the following table for a quick reference to the conditions and the corresponding illustrations:

Condition

Best Described In

Buzz type noise in front end.

#1

Road noise, Windnoise or the windshield fogs up.

#2

Windnoise around the top of the door.

#3

Windnoise from the sliding side door.

#4

Windnoise from the sliding side door glass.

#5

Windrush from the sliding side door glass.

#6

Water running down the "A" pillar.

#7

Water at bottom of the door.

#8

Water settles in the trim around the rear door striker

#9

Headliner is wet or water is coming out of the "D" pillar trim to rear quarter trim.

#10

Water may be dripping from "D" pillar trim to rear quarter trim or the rear carpet is wet.

#11

Condition #1

There is a buzz, moan type or a sound similar to that of a Kazoo or a Reed. This condition usually happens at highway speeds with temperatures below 4°C (40°F) and more pronounced if there is a good cross wind.

Cause

The primary door weatherstrip lip may vibrate against the "A" pillar reveal molding.

Correction


Object Number: 1460231  Size: MF

Pull the primary seal weatherstrip back, clean and apply two-way tape 130 mm (12 in) long to the weatherstrip lip. Refer to the illustration above. Clean and then seat the primary seal to the "A" pillar.

Condition #2

Road noise, windnoise or the windshield fogs up on the right hand side.

Cause


Object Number: 1619359  Size: SH

A foaming operation may have been missed at the bottom of the "A" pillar. Open the hood and look for the foam in the illustration shown above.

Correction


Object Number: 1619362  Size: SH

From the inside of the vehicle, place duct tape horizontally in the hole so that when the foam is applied, it doesn't drop down into the dash. Apply Kent Ure-foam™ Expandable Foam, P/N P10630, or 3M™ Automix™ flexible foam, P/N 08463, to the bottom of the "A" pillar. Refer to the illustration above. Apply a second tube from outside the vehicle. Refer to the foam in the illustration under the cause.

Condition #3

There is windnoise from around the top of the front doors.

Cause

The primary seal might not be making good contact to the door surface. Check the seal contact with the dollar bill method.

Correction


Object Number: 1619364  Size: SH

Pull the primary seal down and measure the distance between the door surface and the body. Refer to the illustration above. Adjust the door striker to achieve 15 mm (9/16 in) between the door and the hem flange.

Condition #4

There is windnoise from the sliding side door.

Cause

The sliding side door may be outboard of the front door.

Correction

Adjust the sliding side door inboard 1 mm of the front door.

Condition #5

There is windnoise from the sliding side door glass.

Cause

There may be a gap in the sliding side door glass urethane.

Correction

Clean the leak area and reseal with urethane.

Condition #6

There is a windrush from the sliding side door glass.

Cause

The sliding side door glass is sticking outboard from the sliding side door outer sheet metal too far.

Correction

Tape off the glass to verify. If that corrects the condition, it will be necessary to remove the glass and reset it in the opening.

Condition #7

There is water running down the "A" pillar.

Cause

Pull the primary seal back at the top of the door and make sure that the piece of tape is attached to the hem flange.

Correction


Object Number: 1619366  Size: SH

If the piece of tape is loose, try and press it down or apply weatherstrip adhesive under the tape. Refer to the illustration for tape location.

Condition #8

There is water at the bottom of the front door.

Cause


Object Number: 1619368  Size: SH

The bottom of the water deflector may not be sealed to the door frame. Refer to the illustration above.

Correction

Look at the seal on the water deflector to make sure it is not dirty. Clean the door surface and reapply the water deflector to the door. If the deflector does not stick, it will be necessary to install a new one.

Condition #9


Object Number: 1619371  Size: SH

Water settles in the trim around the rear door striker. Refer to the illustration above.

Cause


Object Number: 1619372  Size: SH

The lift gate emblem studs may not be sealed. Refer to the illustration above.

Correction

Clean the studs off and seal with weatherstrip adhesive.

Condition #10

The headliner is wet or water is coming out of the "D" pillar trim to rear quarter trim.

Cause


Object Number: 1619374  Size: SH

The rear door wire pass through grommet may not be seated to the body. Refer to the illustration above.

Correction

Reseat the end of the grommet.

Condition #11

Water may be dripping from the "D" pillar trim to rear quarter trim or the rear carpet is wet.

Cause


Object Number: 1619377  Size: SH

The rear door primary seal may not be seated to the body. Refer to the arrow in the illustration above.

Correction

Fully seat the primary weatherstrip.

Warranty Information

For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Condition #

Labor Operation

Description

Labor Time

#1&7

C1080

Front right door primary seal

0.1-0.3 hr

#1&7

C1081

Front left primary seal

0.1-0.3  hr

#2

C2420

Panel, Instrument panel upper

0.2 hr

 

Add

Apply Foam to pillar

0.3 hr

#3

B4000

Right front door align

0.1-0.3 hr

#3

B4001

Left front door align

0.1-0.3 hr

#4

B5000

PSD Right Align

0.1-0.3 hr

#5&10

B5410

Body Reseal

0.1-0.4 hr

#6

C0462

Side door glass

0.7 hr

#8

C3364

Right front door water deflector

0.3 hr

#8

C3365

Left front door water deflector

0.3 hr

#9

C4860

Lift Gate Trim panel

0.3 hr

 

Add

To clean and apply sealer

0.1 hr