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Circuit Description

The DTC P0125 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Excessive Time To Closed Loop Fuel Control diagnostic monitors the time passed before Closed Loop fuel control occurs. The engine operates in Open Loop when first started. In Open Loop the powertrain control module (PCM) ignores the oxygen sensor signal and calculates the air/fuel ratio based on inputs from the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor, the accelerator pedal position (APP) sensor, and the manifold absolute pressure (MAP) sensor. The PCM will begin Closed Loop fuel control when the oxygen sensor signal is active enough and the ECT sensor reaches a predetermined coolant temperature. The PCM expects to begin Closed Loop fuel control within a specified amount of time.

DTC Descriptor

This diagnostic procedure supports the following DTC.

DTC P0125 Engine Coolant Temperature (ECT) Excessive Time to Closed Loop Fuel Control

Conditions for Running the DTC

    • DTCs P0030, P0050, P0107, P0108, P0112, P0113, P0116, P0117, P0118, P0135, P0155, P0171, P0172, P0174, P0175, P0300-P0306, P0335, P0401, P0404, P0443, P0496, P0506, P0507, P1128, P1129, P2227, P2228, P2229, P2413, P2414, and P2415 are not set.
    • The engine coolant temperature is less than 38°C (100°F) at engine start up.
    • Fuel Cut-Off is not active.
    • DTC P0125 runs once per drive cycle when the above conditions are met.

Conditions for Setting the DTC

The engine coolant temperature does vary more than 2°C (3.6°F) within 20 minutes from engine start.

Action Taken When the DTC Sets

    • The PCM illuminates the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) on the second consecutive ignition cycle that the diagnostic runs and fails.
    • The PCM records the operating conditions at the time the diagnostic fails. The first time the diagnostic fails, the PCM stores this information in the Failure Records. If the diagnostic reports a failure on the second consecutive ignition cycle, the PCM records the operating conditions at the time of the failure. The PCM writes the conditions to the Freeze Frame and updates the Failure Records.

Conditions for Clearing the MIL/DTC

    • The PCM turns OFF the malfunction indicator lamp (MIL) after 3 consecutive ignition cycles that the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
    • A last test failed, or current DTC, clears when the diagnostic runs and does not fail.
    • A history DTC clears after 40 consecutive warm-up cycles, if no failures are reported by this or any other emission related diagnostic.
    • Use a scan tool in order to clear the MIL and the DTC.

Diagnostic Aids

    • Check for any of the following conditions:
       - A DTC P0125 can indicate a skewed ECT sensor. Comparing the coolant temperature displayed on a scan tool with the actual engine coolant temperature measured with a thermometer may isolate the fault. If the displayed engine coolant temperature is not close to the actual engine coolant temperature, replace the ECT sensor. Refer to Temperature Versus Resistance - Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor .
       - Check for the proper operation of the thermostat. Refer to Thermostat Diagnosis in Engine Cooling.
    • An intermittent malfunction may be caused by a fault in the ECT sensor electrical circuit. Inspect the wiring harness and the components for an intermittent condition. Refer to Intermittent Conditions .
    • If the DTC P0125 cannot be duplicated, the information included in the Freeze Frame data can be useful in determining vehicle operating conditions when the DTC was first set.

Test Description

The numbers below refer to the step numbers in the diagnostic table.

  1. The Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls prompts the technician to complete some basic checks and store the Freeze Frame data on the scan tool if applicable. This creates an electronic copy of the data taken when the fault occurred. The information is then stored in the scan tool for later reference.

  2. This step determines if there is a cooling system malfunction.

  3. This step compares the engine coolant temperature (ECT) temperature to the intake air temperature (IAT). This inspection is to be performed when the vehicle has reached the ambient room temperature. At that time both the surrounding air temperature and the engine coolant temperature are nearly equal. If the ECT sensor and circuit are OK, both sensors should indicate the same temperature.

  4. The fault not present indicates the condition that caused DTC P0125 to set is intermittent and not currently present. If no other DTCs are stored, refer to Diagnostic Aids for additional information on diagnosing an intermittent DTC P0125.

  5. After replacing the PCM the relationship between the CKP sensor and the crankshaft must re-established. A new minimum throttle position and idle speed must also be established.

Step

Action

Value(s)

Yes

No

Schematic Reference: Engine Controls Schematics

Connector End View Reference: Powertrain Control Module Connector End Views or Engine Controls Connector End Views

1

Did you perform the Diagnostic System Check-Engine Controls?

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Go to Step 2

Go to Diagnostic System Check - Engine Controls

2

Review the list below for any of the following customer concerns:

    • Insufficient heat from the climate control system
    • Instrument panel (IP) temperature gauge indicates a lower than normal engine temperature after driving the vehicle
    • Compare the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor reading to the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor reading on a scan tool.

Did you identify a customer concern from the list above?

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Go to Step 8

Go to Step 3

3

  1. Allow the engine to cool to the ambient air temperature.
  2. Turn ON the ignition, leaving the engine OFF.
  3. Compare the engine coolant temperature (ECT) sensor reading to the intake air temperature (IAT) sensor reading on a scan tool.

Are the ECT and the IAT readings within 2 or 3 degrees of each other?

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Go to Step 4

Go to Step 6

4

  1. Start the engine and immediately observe the ECT on the scan tool.
  2. Continue to observe the ECT while idling the engine for 10 minutes.

Does the ECT increase by more than the specified value within the 10 minutes?

20°C (68°F)

Go to Step 5

Go to Step 8

5

The fault is not present.

Are there any DTCs stored that have not been diagnosed?

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Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List

Go to Diagnostic Aids

6

  1. Measure the resistance of the ECT sensor with a DMM.
  2. Compare the measured resistance of the ECT sensor with the resistance values in the Temperature vs Resistance table. Refer to Temperature Versus Resistance - Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor .

Is the resistance of the ECT sensor within specifications?

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Go to Step 7

Go to Step 9

7

  1. Check for any of the following conditions:
  2. • A high resistance in the ECT sensor signal and low reference ground circuits
    • A faulty connection at the ECT sensor
    • A faulty connection at the PCM
  3. Repair as necessary. Refer to Wiring Repairs in Wiring Systems.

Did you find and correct the condition?

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Go to Step 11

Go to Step 10

8

  1. Inspect the engine cooling system for all of the following:
  2. • The correct coolant level--Refer to Cooling System Draining and Filling in Engine Cooling.
    • The correct operation of the cooling system--Refer to Engine Fails To Reach Normal Operating Temperature in Engine Cooling.
    • The correct operation of the thermostat--Refer to Thermostat Diagnosis in Engine Cooling.
    • The correct operation of the engine cooling fan-- Cooling Fan Always On in Engine Cooling
  3. Repair as necessary.

Did you complete the action?

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Go to Step 11

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9

Replace the ECT sensor. Refer to Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Replacement .

Did you complete the replacement?

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Go to Step 11

Go to Step 10

10

  1. Replace the PCM. Refer to Powertrain Control Module Replacement .
  2. Perform the idle learn procedure. Refer to Idle Learn .

Did you complete the replacement?

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Go to Step 11

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11

  1. Use the scan tool in order to clear the DTCs.
  2. Turn OFF the ignition for 30 seconds.
  3. Start the engine.
  4. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC as specified in the supporting text or until the DTC P0125 diagnostic test has run.

Does the DTC run and pass?

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Go to Step 12

Go to Step 2

12

With a scan tool, observe the stored information, Capture Info.

Does the scan tool display any DTCs that you have not diagnosed?

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Go to Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) List

System OK